they're normally trained to urban environments. but it can happen. they can do it. they can get on his trail. and they can apprehend him at night. >> chairman, i'm curious. this is so difficult. because people can have traumatic experiences in their life, bad experiences at work, and they don't turn out like this. and this kind of a horrific situation. but in the manifesto, dorner wrote, "self-preservation is no longer important to me. i do not fear death, as i died long ago on january 2nd, 2009." that was the day he says he was fired from the lapd. now, we have no indication that dorner was on the radar of the fbi. should someone like him have been, or is it just too much to ask? >> you just don't know. if he had these type of supposed while he was a police officer, certainly the lapd was aware of that. we don't know all the circumstances of why he was fired, but i can imagine if you see his actions today, that some of those attitudes, some of those actions may have played in to why he was terminated. so it was probably bigger than the event that was listed on the